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Birth & Resurection
03-02-2017, 06:45 AM,
#61
RE: Birth & Resurection
PRESENT TRUTH PAST MUST UNFOLD AND GROW INTO PRESENT TRUTH TODAY AND ONWARD UNTIL IT ACCOMPLISHES THE WILL AND PLAN OF GOD FULLY!

Mike: I think what I am saying fits into the guidelines that C.T.R. taught in his day only his present truth must grow into our present truth as it unfolds and evolves into the final chapter and ultimate final harvest and kingdom age promised blessings!

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'WHAT IS TRUTH?' BE NOT CONTENT WITH ONE FLOWER OF TRUTH. HAD ONE BEEN SUFFICIENT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE. GATHER EVER, SEEK FOR MORE.

This question is one which every sincere Christian should ask and seek to answer. We should learn to love and value truth for its own sake; to respect and honor it by owning and acknowledging it wherever we find it and by whomsoever presented. A truth presented by Satan himself is just as true as a truth stated by God.

Perhaps no class of people are more apt to overlook this fact than the Christian. How often do they in controversy overlook and ignore truth presented by their opponents. This is particularly the case when arguing with an infidel. They feel at perfect liberty to dispute everything he says on religious subjects. This is not the correct principle. Many infidels are honest--as anxious to speak and believe the truth as are Christians--and if in converse with them we ignore truths which they may advance, we not only fail to convince them of our truths, but put an end to all hope of reaching them; for our failure to admit the evident truth which they advance begets in them contempt for the one who is not honest enough to admit one truth because he does not see how it can be reconciled to another. Accept truth wherever you find it, no matter what it contradicts, and rely for ability to afterwards harmonize it with others upon `The Spirit of truth, which shall guide you into all truth,’ as Jesus promised.
Truth, like a modest little flower in the wilderness of life, is surrounded and almost choked by the luxuriant growth of the weeds of error. If you would find it you must be ever on the lookout. If you would see its beauty you must brush aside the weeds of error and the brambles of bigotry. If you would possess it you must stoop to get it.
BE NOT CONTENT WITH ONE FLOWER OF TRUTH. HAD ONE BEEN SUFFICIENT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MORE. GATHER EVER, SEEK FOR MORE.

Weave them together as a garland--'Bind them on thee as a bride doeth.’ ‘Bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: so shalt thou find favor and good understanding in the sight of God and man.’ {#Pr 3:3 }.
C. T. R.

Mike: We should all seek more truth as C.T.R. advised “SEEK FOR MORE”! Spiritual growth is dependent on truth and its unfolding powers. I believe C.T.R. understood this and I also believe and follow said course in pursuing unfolding truth more and more as the perfect day fast approaches. These other articles are still relevant and worthy of study as past truth can only enhance future truth.

Jesus promise to all who seek him and his truth up to his return: THE FUTURE UNFOLDING OF TRUTH
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EVIDENCE OF FRIENDSHIP.

'Ye are my friends if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his Lord doeth, [his plans, etc.] but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.’ {#Joh 15:15 }.

The end of Jesus’ earthly ministry was come; during those three and a half years he had uttered truths which served to test his ÿ followers, which proved to some causes of stumbling, to all who were not `Israelites indeed:’ --truths which had brought the opposition of the nominal Jewish church, and of which even some of his followers, had said: `This is an hard saying; who can hear it?’ and walked no more with him. But now this work of separating was all over; even Judas had gone out, and Jesus and the eleven are alone. He has been telling them some things regarding their new and high privileges, their new relationship toward God about to be purchased by his death, into the enjoyment of which they should enter after he should ascend to the Father, and His work as ransom be recognized as perfect. THEN WOULD COME THE 'POWER FROM ON HIGH'-- THE SPIRIT WHICH WOULD ENDUE THEM WITH ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND SPIRITUAL, OR HEAVENLY THINGS.

It may have escaped the attention of some that at this time the disciples were not begotten of the spirit, though they were justified by faith-- justified human beings, but not begotten new creatures, consequently Jesus’ teachings contain little reference to the highest things except in parables; he explained little concerning the 'high calling' of the Bride, but said: `I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit, when he the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth.’ How this corroborates Paul's statement: `The natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God,’ `neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.’ {#1Co 2:14 }. THOUGH JUSTIFIED MEN, THEY MUST BE BEGOTTEN OF THE SPIRIT TO COMPREHEND THINGS ABOVE THE HUMAN PLANE.

THE FUTURE UNFOLDING OF TRUTH

After telling them of THE FUTURE UNFOLDING OF TRUTH and of his words he tells them why his revelations are for them, viz: because he will henceforth treat them as friends and reveal all things to them.
There are two important lessons conveyed in these words of the Master, as applicable to us as to the eleven Apostles: first, the rule by which He judges who are His friends--'ye are my friends if ye do whatsoever I command you.’ If we submit our wills completely to his will, thus becoming dead to the world and alive toward God--then he reckons us friends; second, the rule by which we may judge whether he reckons us among this class of special `friends,' viz: IF HE REVEALS HIS WORK AND PLANS TO US, EVEN ALL THINGS WHICH HE HAS HEARD OF THE FATHER.

NOW APPLY THESE RULES TO YOURSELF "NOW EXAMINE YOUSELF AS WELL!"

NOW APPLY THESE RULES TO YOURSELF. If you can say, `Not my will but thine be done'--not my plan of saving the world, not my plan relative to the preaching of the Gospel--not my will regarding the nominal church--not my will regarding myself and what I shall do or be--but'Thy will be done' in all these things, then you are a 'friend' in this special sense spoken of by Jesus.

NOW TRY THE OTHER RULE, HAVE YOU EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE A SPECIAL FRIEND? IS THE SPIRIT LEADING YOU DAILY INTO MORE AND MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORDS AND PLAN--REVEALING MORE AND MORE OF THE 'MYSTERY' KEPT HID IN FORMER AGES, AND SHOWING YOU 'THINGS TO COME.' DO YOU SAY YES? VERY GOOD, THEN YOURS IS THE BLESSED EXPERIENCE OF HEAVENLY WISDOM, WHICH AT THE SAME TIME IS A PROOF THAT YOU ARE A SPECIAL 'FRIEND.' CONTINUE AND IF POSSIBLE INCREASE YOUR CONSECRATION, AND YOU SHALL CONTINUE TO ABIDE IN HIS LOVE AND TO HAVE FRESH EVIDENCES OF HIS FRIENDSHIP BY GROWTH `IN GRACE AND IN KNOWLEDGE.'

If the Word and plan of God are not opening before you: [The Spirit often uses human agencies for communicating truth.] If you are not being led of the Spirit into all truth-- if he is not showing you 'things to come,' ({#Joh 16:13 }.) then it looks indeed as though you were not of the special friends, and it should be your first work to gain this divine friendship by self-surrender--consecration.

NOW TRY THE OTHER RULE, HAVE YOU EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE A SPECIAL FRIEND?

All who believe themselves acceptable servants of our Master should look for and not be satisfied without this witness of the Spirit that they are Christ's friends.

REVEALING MORE AND MORE OF THE 'MYSTERY' KEPT HID IN FORMER AGES, AND SHOWING YOU 'THINGS TO COME
IS THE SPIRIT LEADING YOU DAILY INTO MORE AND MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORDS AND PLAN--REVEALING MORE AND MORE OF THE 'MYSTERY' KEPT HID IN FORMER AGES, AND SHOWING YOU 'THINGS TO COME.'
DO YOU SAY YES? VERY GOOD, THEN YOURS IS THE BLESSED EXPERIENCE OF HEAVENLY WISDOM, WHICH AT THE SAME TIME IS A PROOF THAT YOU ARE A SPECIAL 'FRIEND.' CONTINUE AND IF POSSIBLE INCREASE YOUR CONSECRATION, AND YOU SHALL CONTINUE TO ABIDE IN HIS LOVE AND TO HAVE FRESH EVIDENCES OF HIS FRIENDSHIP BY GROWTH `IN GRACE AND IN KNOWLEDGE

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Mike: Compare these thoughts to how you look at yourself and treat others who do not agree with your beliefs!

PAPACY IN THE PROTESTANT CHURCH.

The Protestant Church repudiates the Pope. It has much to say of the right of private judgement. And yet while it dismisses the Pope at the front door, it admits the Papal principle at the back door. Not content with framing its creeds out of the facts of Christianity, which no true Christian will dispute, the Reformed churches constructed systems of theology into creeds, and substituted for the rule of the Spirit, which is the only true substitute for that of the Pope, the domination of the system. Hence, in them all, there is more or less of this papacy of creed. If any one discovers some new truth out of harmony with its statements, or error inwrought at some point, he must either be silent, or run the risk of loss of standing and preferment, and perhaps of excision. It is amazing, when one reflects upon it, how the Protestant Church has thus abandoned the principles of private judgement, and the liberty of the Spirit, upon which it was based. One need not go far to find churches where honest thought and high aspiration are repressed, where THE GATES OF FREE INQUIRY ARE CLOSED, AND NEW LIGHT FROM THE WORD OF GOD, AND FROM OTHER SOURCES IN NATURE AND PROVIDENCE, IS BARRED OUT. A fatal domination of recognized leaders, keeps the body within the strict lines of its tradition, and puts its ban upon any who dare transcend them; unless, indeed; it be done in some such covert way as not to excite suspicion that the integrity of the system is to be endangered.

Mike: Sounds familiar doesn't it!

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THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, WHICH DECLARE THAT "CHRIST JESUS BY THE GRACE OF GOD TASTED DEATH FOR EVERY MAN," and that the blessed opportunity of coming into harmony with God, under the conditions of the New Covenant, shall ultimately be extended to every creature; and that when each one is brought to a knowledge of the Truth he is judged thereby, and either approved unto everlasting life, or condemned to everlasting destruction, the second death. "Hereby discern we the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of error." #1Jo 4:5,6 #Ac 3:23 The Spirit of God, the Spirit of holiness, is a spirit of joy and peace in all who receive it, in proportion as they receive it--in proportion as they come into accord with the heavenly Father and with the Redeemer, who has the same mind or disposition. The Spirit of the Lord leads to faith in God's promises; the spirit of error leads in the contrary direction, to unbelief in the promises of God, and to human speculations and credulity and superstition--to the believing of things which God has not spoken, and which are unreasonable to those who have the "holy Spirit," "the Spirit of a sound mind." The Spirit of Truth leads to activity and energy in the divine cause, appreciating the privilege of being a co-worker together with God to any extent; the spirit of error, on the contrary, is a "spirit of slumber" and of carelessness in heavenly things, and of carefulness for earthly things--of carelessness for the true Church and its bond of love, and of carefulness for human organizations and their creed-bonds. #Ro 11:8

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Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye [new creatures] would"--the continual opposition and deceitfulness of the flesh being a hindrance to perfect deeds, though by God's grace this does not hinder our acceptance with God as "new creatures," whose hearts, spirits, intentions, are holy and acceptable to the Father in the Beloved One. #Ga 5:16,17

TAUGHT OF GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT

From what we have learned respecting the Spirit of the Lord, and its operation upon his people, through its enlightening influence upon their minds, its removal of errors, and its illumination of the Word giving the living truth, we are prepared to understand and appreciate the Apostle's words: "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man [the natural man], the things which God hath in reservation for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." (#1Co 2:9,10) That is to say, having submitted our wills to the Lord, that we might be taught of him, and walk in his way, we have come into harmony with his will, mind, Spirit; and we are prepared, from this new standpoint--the standpoint of a new mind, rightly directed--to see things in a new light--all things become new to us.

THE NEW MIND, THE NEW WILL, PROMPTS US TO SEARCH INTO THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD, TO STUDY THE WORD OF GOD, THAT WE MAY KNOW AND DO HIS WILL, AS OBEDIENT SONS.

Having the mind or Spirit of our Father, we will take heed to his instructions, in every detail, and seek to walk in harmony with him. "For what man knoweth the things [mind, will, plan] of a man, save the spirit [mind] of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God." (#1Co 2:11)

THAT IS TO SAY, AS NO MAN CAN KNOW ANOTHER MAN'S MIND AND PLAN, EXCEPT AS THEY ARE REVEALED TO HIM, SO NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIVINE MIND AND PLAN, EXCEPT HE COME INTO HARMONY WITH THE DIVINE MIND--RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.
THEY ARE UNDERSTOOD ONLY BY THOSE WHO HAVE THE SPIRIT OR MIND OF GOD, THE SPIRIT OF HIS PLAN, THE SPIRIT OF THE TRUTH
"Now we have received the Spirit [mind, disposition or will] of God, that we might know the things that are freely given unto us of God … but the natural man receiveth not the things of God, for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." THEY ARE UNDERSTOOD ONLY BY THOSE WHO HAVE THE SPIRIT OR MIND OF GOD, THE SPIRIT OF HIS PLAN, THE SPIRIT OF THE TRUTH. All such must have dispositions in harmony with righteousness and truth, so far as they understand these principles, and must daily seek to know more of the mind of God, the will of God, and to have more of his Spirit, disposition. Such obedient sons are more and more "filled with the Spirit" of Truth, and the spirit of obedience to it. But they do not gain this condition by comparing spiritual things with natural things, as the natural man is disposed to do, but by following the divine counsel, and "comparing spiritual things with spiritual." (#1Co 2:13) "He that is spiritual [who has received the holy mind or Spirit] judgeth all things [he is able to understand and to properly estimate both human and spiritual things in the light of the divine plan], yet he himself is judged of no man." No natural man can understand or rightly judge the motives which prompt the spiritually minded "new creature" to willingly sacrifice things valuable to the natural man, for hopes and prospects which, to the latter, seem unreal and unreasonable. Hence, the followers of the Lord are "counted as fools" by the worldly-minded, by those who have the spirit of the world. #1Co 2:12-16; 4:10

'The path of the just is as a shining light that shineth more and more, until the perfect day,’ and the fact that it now shines so brightly, and that we are able to see more of the beauty and harmony of God's word, is strong presumptive evidence that we are in the dawn of that glorious millennial day, when `we shall know even as we are known.’

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A KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ONLY PARTIAL MAY FOR A WHILE WORK MORE HARM THAN GOOD

Our answer to the question is, The fault lies in the imperfection of the social fabric and not with the increasing knowledge which threatens to wreck it. True, A KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ONLY PARTIAL MAY FOR A WHILE WORK MORE HARM THAN GOOD; for as some one has said--
'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring.’
It would be better for all concerned, if full, absolute knowledge were general; all would then be more quickly adjusted, no doubt; the struggle would be shorter and sharper, and a new arrangement of human affairs, a new social fabric, suited to the increased knowledge and recognizing every individual's rights to the fullest extent, would supersede the present order. But this is not possible: KNOWLEDGE MUST COME GRADUALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY; God's 'due time' has come for knowledge to be increased, but he will not bring it about miraculously but by natural means, such as the `running to and fro’ of men and ideas. God's method will not only bring about the great time of trouble predicted, but it will also give mankind a valuable and lasting lesson on justice, which will enable each, thereafter, to look fairly upon another's rights as well as his own, when their interests differ.

The result of God's method of introducing knowledge will be that the old social fabric in the hands of the small class of favored ones--intellectually, financially and politically--will endeavor to remain, to continue itself upon the old lines and principles; --merely stretching itself a little more to accommodate itself to the increasing pressure from expanding ideas of the people in general. Yet all the while, its general structure prevents its expansion much beyond its present limits, and each increase of pressure from within adds to the strain upon both the people and the present social structure. The present liberty and privilege and share of earth's blessings accorded to mankind in general would have been grand and benevolent beyond appreciation in the `dark ages,’ but now it fetters and frets the masses, because knowledge has increased; and they will continue to fret and strike and plot until in everything they have their full share of all blessings, comforts, privileges, advantages and liberties as men; as common heirs of the world and its natural advantages. In this the masses respond to the principle of selfishness; even as the upper class of society, actuated by a similar selfishness, seeks not only to hold present wealth (which is at least an excusable weakness,) but also to perpetuate the present social structure which so greatly favors the already favored class.

IT IS THE NEW WINE IN THE OLD WINE-SKINS ({#Mt 9:17 }) OVER AGAIN: it is the new principles, of justice and equality among men, the principles which must prevail during the Millennial age, that are now stretching the old system of things and which ultimately will burst and destroy the present social order in a period of troubles, disaster and anarchy. What lessons both parties will learn, regarding each other's worth and rights in that dark day! Thank God, his children are also advised by his Word of the glorious Day to follow, in which society shall be reorganized (the 'new earth') under the blessed influence of the Lord and the glorified Church (the 'new heavens'), upon a basis of fullest justice to all, --under the gracious provisions of the New Covenant.

KNOWLEDGE MUST COME GRADUALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY!!!!

GOOD ADVICE! Mike 3/1/17
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03-02-2017, 07:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-02-2017, 07:54 AM by StvAce.)
#62
RE: Birth & Resurection
1 John 4:3
  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Galatians 6:14  But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
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03-02-2017, 08:08 AM,
#63
RE: Birth & Resurection
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A KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ONLY PARTIAL MAY FOR A WHILE WORK MORE HARM THAN GOOD

Our answer to the question is, The fault lies in the imperfection of the social fabric and not with the increasing knowledge which threatens to wreck it. True, A KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ONLY PARTIAL MAY FOR A WHILE WORK MORE HARM THAN GOOD; for as some one has said--

'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring.’

It would be better for all concerned, if full, absolute knowledge were general; all would then be more quickly adjusted, no doubt; the struggle would be shorter and sharper, and a new arrangement of human affairs, a new social fabric, suited to the increased knowledge and recognizing every individual's rights to the fullest extent, would supersede the present order. But this is not possible: KNOWLEDGE MUST COME GRADUALLY AND INDIVIDUALLY;

PAY ATTENTION TO THIS NEXT PART!

God's 'due time' has come for knowledge to be increased, but he will not bring it about miraculously but by natural means, such as the `running to and fro’ of men and ideas. God's method will not only bring about the great time of trouble predicted, but it will also give mankind a valuable and lasting lesson on justice, which will enable each, thereafter, to look fairly upon another's rights as well as his own, when their interests differ.
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03-09-2017, 02:22 AM,
#64
RE: Birth & Resurection
DEFENDING THE TRUE GOSPEL AND OUR LORD JESUS THE CHRIST

NOTE: BY MIKE JACOB (MJ): In this reprint article written by an apparent past Bible Student named ARTHUR PINK you have the two great deceptions defined as orchestrated by Satan discussed in great detail. What I want to point out is the cause and effect these deceptions have had on all Christians to date by using the same logic and words this brother has left us to consider which I consider a treasure from the past. What I read included both deceptions surrounding false Christian religion and the identity and meaning of the above title “THE LORD JESUS CHRIST” as it pertains to the son of God who no longer, for the most, is seen as a worthy God and savior taking away the title Lord or God leaving Jesus less than he deserves to say the least!

(MJ) CONSIDER WHAT THIS AUTHOR STATES NEXT IT DESCRIBES EXACTLY HOW SATAN MADE THE SON OF GOD LESS THAN A GOD AS ORDAINED BY JESUS FATHER WHO WANTED HIS SON TO BE A GOD AND SAVIOR UNDER THE FATHERS AUTHORITY!

CONTINUED ARTICLE BY ARTHUR PINK:

Instead He is acknowledged to be the most perfect person who ever lived. Attention is drawn to His deeds of compassion and acts of mercy, the beauty of His character and the tenderness of His teaching. His life is eulogized, but His Death is ignored, the all-important atoning work upon the Cross is never mentioned. It is a bloodless Gospel and a crossless life and, IN REGARD TO HIS PERSON, HE IS MERELY CONSIDERED AS THE IDEAL MAN.

Mike: Here is the complete article it makes for remarkable reading as we observe the world and religion as it looks today! It becomes very clear Satan’s deceits would be designed to cover up the true Gospel and hide the true identity of Jesus Christ and take away the honors and title Christ deserves. This rather long but in these times such advice could and will become very helpful to the elect of Jesus Christ.

SATAN'S COUNTERFEIT OF TRUE RELIGION
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"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."--# Pr 14:12.

IT MAY be a subject of some surprise to learn that Satan has a gospel, yet such would not be the case if all were familiar with the Satan of Scripture. Unfortunately for themselves the great majority today are not acquainted with the delineation of the Devil which God's Word supplies. They know little or nothing about his motives his methods, his ministers, his machinery or his media. To them he is either a hideous monster with horns, hoofs and a tail, or else an abstract principle of evil--the absence of good, a negation. The words which Goethe put into the mouth of Mephistopheles in "Faust," "I am the spirit of Negation," is the popular definition of the Devil today. He is impersonal immaterial, impossible. As one has quaintly put it, "They spell Devil without a ‘d’ as they spell God with two ‘o's.'" Good and evil is their scheme. "All the Devil there is, is the devil within you," is the last word of modern theology.

Now, an intelligent enemy always keeps in the background remains hidden, out of sight. It is an important factor to his success that his identity should be concealed. The assassin who plunges a knife into the back of his victim is generally hired for the purpose. The one who throws the bomb is merely a pawn, the master-mind that planned the deed is unseen and unsuspected. The police in some of our large cities know perfectly well that many of the most daring crimes are engineered by one who is too astute to show his hand. Those whom he employs to execute his plans may be caught, but the genius who "pulls the strings" is secure. Therefore it need not surprise us to find that the masses do not believe in the existence of a personal Devil. It would be strange were it otherwise. "Where ignorance is bliss ‘tis folly to be wise" is doubtless an axiom, of the truth and value of which, in relation to humanity, the Devil is fully assured.

The Word of God does not leave us in any doubt as to the existence of a personal Devil. It furnishes us with a full-length portrait of him. It gives us a comprehensive description of his being, his emissaries and his aims. Personal names are ascribed to him and personal characteristics attributed to him. He is represented as being the originator and source of all evil in the Universe, and the implacable enemy of God and man. His power is so tremendous that we are informed, "Michael, the archangel when contending with the Devil (he disputed about the body of Moses), durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." (#Jude 9.) His dominion is so great and his impudence so audacious that he offered all the kingdoms of the world to the Son of God, on the one condition that He would fall down and worship him. And our Lord did not challenge his right to make such an offer, but upon a subsequent occasion acknowledged him to be the Prince of this world.

Moreover, the Word of God not only describes at length the person and power of the Devil, but it also acquaints us with his purposes, which may be summed up under two heads, namely: TO DENY THE WORD OF GOD AND TO DESTROY THE WORK OF JESUS CHRIST. It would be apart from our present purpose were we to turn aside and show at length how every available weapon was employed in the first centuries of the Christian Era to destroy the Bible, and how in these last days Satan is using the pens of the "higher critics" to destroy the authority of the Holy Scriptures. Suffice it to say that, from the day when he repudiated the words of Jehovah to Eve, until the moment when he is cast into the Abyss, HIS UNTIRING ENERGIES WILL BE DEVOTED TO THE WORK OF DENYING THE ORACLES OF GOD.

EVER SINCE THE FIRST MESSIANIC PREDICTION SATAN HAS TRIED TO DESTROY THE WORK OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

FIRST, by way of anticipation and secondly by a method of imitation. When Jehovah declared to the serpent that the Seed of the woman should bruise his head, it was not long before that old serpent, the Devil, tried to frustrate the purposes of God. Cain (who was of that wicked one) slew his brother Abel as the first attempt to destroy the woman's seed. Later on, God declared to Abraham that "in him should all the families of the earth be blessed," or, as the Holy Spirit's comment upon these words informs us, "Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many but as One, And to thy Seed, which is Christ." (#Ga 3:16.) When in Egypt the descendants of Abraham began to wax numerous and it appeared that there was an immediate likelihood of this prophecy receiving its fulfilment, Satan tried to frustrate the prophecies of God and destroy the channel through which that Seed was to come by inciting Pharaoh to issue a command that the male children of the Hebrew women should be destroyed. (#Ex 1:16.) When at a still later date God made known to King David that the promised Messiah was to be born of the royal tribe of Judah, Satan made a still more persistent attack to thwart God, as may be witnessed during the time of the divided kingdom when the ten tribes made an untiring and determined effort to exterminate the tribe of Judah.

When the fulness of the time was come and Immanuel was born at Bethlehem, Satan promptly made an effort to destroy the young child's life. Through Herod he slew all the children in Bethlehem from two years old and under. But his effort was in vain. For being warned of God in a dream Joseph had taken the young child and his mother and fled into Egypt. At the commencement of our Lord's ministry (in the Temptation) Satan tried to make Him throw Himself down from the Temple. On another occasion when, wearied out with the day's work, our Lord sought a few minutes’ sleep in the bow of the boat, the Prince of the Power of the Air lashed the Sea of Galilee into a fury until the disciples feared that the little ship was doomed. And it was not until the Creator of the sea commanded it to be still that the plot of the Devil was foiled.

Other instances could be cited in which the Devil sought to prevent our Lord offering Himself as a Sacrifice for sin. Perhaps the supreme occasion was while He was upon the cross itself. Weakened by His sufferings tortured by His merciless enemies, hanging helpless between the earth and Heaven, Satan challenged Him to demonstrate His Deity by descending from the cross. "Thou that destroyest the Temple, and buildest it in three days, save Thyself. If thou be the Son of God come down from the cross." (#Mt 27:40.) But glory to His blessed Name He never faltered, He patiently and majestically bore His sufferings in silence until He cried in triumph, "It is finished!" and surrendered His spirit into the hands of the Father. But the Devil had still another card to play. His sacred body having been borne from the cross and laid in the sepulchre, Satan then made it his business to see that it was securely sealed and guarded by a company of Roman soldiers. Ah, Satan! if thou canst only succeed in keeping in the tomb that Body, thou hast triumphed. But no, again thou art defeated! The grave cannot retain its victim, Death cannot hold the Lord of Life. "Up from the grave He rose with a mighty triumph o'er His foe--Hallelujah, Christ arose!" And today He lives and is alive forevermore!

Having been thwarted and defeated at every point having failed to prevent the incarnation [His being "made flesh," #Joh 1:14] of our blessed Lord, having failed to prevent His offering Himself as a Sacrifice for sin, having failed to keep His body in the confines of death, it behooves us to inquire, HAS SATAN GIVEN UP IN DESPAIR? HAS HE CEASED IN HIS EFFORTS TO DESTROY THE WORK OF CHRIST? HAS HE CHANGED HIS ATTITUDE TOWARD THE SON OF GOD? OR IS HE STILL PERPETUATING HIS HELLISH DEEDS? IS HE STILL SEEKING TO ANNUL THE EFFECTS OF CHRIST'S WORK? IS HE YET DESIROUS OF DESTROYING THE VIRTUES OF THE CROSS? AN ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS IS OF THE GREATEST IMPORTANCE.

AGAIN WE NEED TO TURN TO THE INFALLIBLE WORD IF WE WOULD OBTAIN A RELIABLE ANSWER.

In the parable of the Tares our Lord has exposed Satan's methods during the time of His absence from this world. After the Son of Man had graciously condescended to scatter the Word of God, Satan likewise did some sowing and went and scattered broadcast his Tares among the Wheat. It is to be noted that he sowed neither thorns nor thistles, but something which so closely resembles the genuine grain that IT IS NOT UNTIL THE TIME OF THE HARVEST THAT THE ONE CAN BE DISTINGUISHED FROM THE OTHER. Then it is seen that the Tares, though resembling the Wheat in every other respect, bear no fruit, produce no increase. In a word, then, just as Satan formerly sought to destroy the Work of Christ by way of anticipation, HE IS NOW ENGAGED IN THE WORK OF NULLIFYING THE VIRTUES OF THE DEATH OF CHRIST BY A METHOD OF IMITATION.

CONSEQUENTLY AS CHRIST HAS A GOSPEL, SATAN MUST ALSO HAVE A GOSPEL. And, in the nature of the case, it must be a gospel which so much resembles the Gospel of Christ that it is capable of deceiving the unwary and deluding the unsaved.

QUOTE: IT WILL BE OUR BUSINESS NOW, NOT TO EXPOUND HIS GOSPEL, BUT WITH THE SPIRIT'S AID, TO EXPOSE IT.

The gospel of Satan is not a system of revolutionary principles, nor yet a programme of anarchy. It does not inspire wars and strife, but peace and security. It does not set the mother against her daughter and the father against his son, but promotes the fraternal spirit whereby the race is regarded as one great Brotherhood. It does not seek to drag down and degrade the natural man but to improve and uplift him. To use a popular phrase it appeals to "the best, all that is good within us." IT AIMS TO MAKE THIS WORLD SUCH A COMFORTABLE AND CONGENIAL HABITAT THAT THE ABSENCE OF CHRIST WILL NOT BE FELT AND GOD WILL NOT BE NEEDED. It endeavors to make men so satisfied with this life that they shall be totally indifferent to the life hereafter. It propagates the principles of self-sacrifice, mercy, charity and benevolence, teaching men to live for the good of others and to be kind to all. For those who observe its conditions and obey its commands it promises the development of certain inherent occult powers, the solution of the more recondite problems of man's constitution and the accumulation of esoteric knowledge which is withheld from the multitude. In short, it declares that all who will eat of the forbidden fruit shall "be as gods."

In contradistinction to the Gospel of Christ, the gospel of Satan is one of works. Its fundamental principles are: salvation by good deeds, redemption by human merits and regeneration by reformation. Its sacramental phrase is: "Be good and do good." Its motto is: "Do unto others as ye would that they should do unto you." Its various ramifications and organizations are manifold. Temperance reform movements, Christian Socialist Leagues, ethical culture societies, "Peace" Congresses and various other organizations are all employed (perhaps unconsciously) in proclaiming this gospel of Satan --justification by works. The pledge card is substituted for Christ; social purity, RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL REGENERATION is the idol of the hour; THE CULTIVATION OF THE FLESH IS CONSIDERED MORE PRACTICAL THAN THE "BIRTH" (BEGETTING) OF THE SPIRIT; while universal peace is looked for without the interposition of the Prince of Peace.

THE APOSTLES OF SATAN FOR THE MOST PART "ORDAINED" MINISTERS

THE APOSTLES OF SATAN are not saloon-keepers and white-slave traffickers, but FOR THE MOST PART "ORDAINED" MINISTERS. Thousands of those who occupy our modern pulpits are not engaged in presenting the fundamentals of the Christian faith, but have turned aside from the Truth and given heed unto fables. Instead of magnifying the enormity of sin and setting forth its eternal consequences they minimize it by declaring that sin is merely ignorance, the absence of good. Instead of warning their hearers "to flee from the wrath to come," they call God a liar by declaring that He is too loving to destroy His own children and too merciful to send one of His own creatures to eternal damnation [krisis, condemnation]. Instead of preaching that "Without shedding of blood there is no remission" (#Heb 9:22) , they merely hold up Christ as the great Exemplar and exhort their hearers to "follow in His steps." "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (#Ro 10:3.) " For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into [imitating] the Apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an Angel of Light. Therefore it is no great thing [not to be wondered at] if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works."--# 2Co 11:13-15.

Added to the fact that hundreds of churches are without a leader who will faithfully declare the whole counsel of God and present His way of salvation, we also have to remember and take into consideration the lamentable and ominous fact that the majority in these congregations are in no way to learn, and have very little possibility of learning the Truth for themselves. The family altar where portion of God's Word was wont to be read daily is now--even in the homes of nominal Christians--a thing of the past. The Bible is not expounded in the pulpit and is not read in the pew. The demands of THIS RUSHING Age are so many that the multitudes have little time and still less desire to meditate upon the things of God. HENCE THE MAJORITY WHO ARE TOO INDOLENT TO SEARCH FOR THEMSELVES ARE LEFT AT THE MERCY OF THOSE WHOM THEY PAY TO SEARCH FOR THEM--THOSE WHO BETRAY THEIR TRUST BY STUDYING ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF THE SCRIPTURES OF TRUTH.

THE DEVIL'S DELUSION

NOTE FROM pg 5.In the Scripture which we have taken as the basis of these remarks the gospel of Satan--THE DEVIL'S DELUSION --IS DESCRIBED AS "A WAY WHICH SEEMETH RIGHT UNTO A MAN." That is to say, it is presented in such plausible language that it appeals to the emotions; it is set forth in such a subtle manner that it commends itself to the intelligence of its hearers. THE SUCCESS OF AN ILLEGITIMATE COINER DEPENDS UPON HOW MUCH THE COUNTERFEIT RESEMBLES THE GENUINE ARTICLE. A lie is not so much the absolute denial as the perversion of the truth. Hence HALF A LIE IS ALWAYS MORE DANGEROUS IN ITS EFFECTS THAN THE TOTAL OF THE TRUTH. Consequently, when the Father of Lies enters the pulpit, he does not flatly deny the great doctrines of Christianity, but he rather tacitly acknowledges them and then proceeds to give an erroneous interpretation and a false application. For example, he would not be so foolish as to boldly announce his disbelief in a personal God --he takes His existence for granted and then gives a false description of His character. He announces that God is the Father of all men, when the Scriptures plainly tell us we are "the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." (#Ga 3:26.) Again, Satan would not make so flagrant a blunder as to ignore the central figure of human history; namely, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

NOTE: BY MIKE JACOB (MJ): In this reprint article written by an apparent past Bible Student named ARTHUR PINK you have the two great deceptions defined as orchestrated by satan discussed in great detail. What I want to point out is the cause and effect these deceptions have had on all Christians to date by using the same logic and words this brother has left us to consider which I consider a treasure from the past. What I read included both deceptions surrounding false Christian religion and the identity and meaning of the above title “THE LORD JESUS CHRIST” as it pertains to the son of God who no longer, for the most, is seen as a worthy God and savior taking away the title Lord or God leaving Jesus less than he deserves to say the least!

(MJ) CONSIDER WHAT THIS AUTHOR STATES NEXT IT DESCRIBES EXACTLY HOW SATAN MADE THE SON OF GOD LESS THAN A GOD AS ORDAINED BY JESUS FATHER WHO WANTED HIS SON TO BE A GOD AND SAVIOR UNDER THE FATHERS AUTHORITY!

CONTINUED ARTICLE BY ARTHUR PINK:

Instead He is acknowledged to be the most perfect person who ever lived. Attention is drawn to His deeds of compassion and acts of mercy, the beauty of His character and the tenderness of His teaching. His life is eulogized, but His Death is ignored, the all-important atoning work upon the Cross is never mentioned. It is a bloodless Gospel and a crossless life and, IN REGARD TO HIS PERSON, HE IS MERELY CONSIDERED AS THE IDEAL MAN.

In #2Co 4:3,4 we have a Scripture which sheds an abundance of light upon our present subject. There we are told: "If our Gospel be hid, it is hid to those that are lost. In whom the god of this world [Satan] hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, WHO IS THE IMAGE OF GOD SHOULD SHINE UPON THEM." He blinds the minds of unbelievers

(MJ) I ADDED THIS VERSE TO THE ABOVE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ALSO : Col 1: 12 ¶ Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 WHO IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD, THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE:
16 For BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED, THAT ARE IN HEAVEN, AND THAT ARE IN EARTH, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, WHETHER THEY BE THRONES, OR DOMINIONS, OR PRINCIPALITIES, OR POWERS: ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM:
17 AND HE IS BEFORE ALL THINGS, AND BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For IT PLEASED THE FATHER THAT IN HIM SHOULD ALL FULNESS DWELL;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS UNTO HIMSELF; BY HIM, I SAY, WHETHER THEY BE THINGS IN EARTH, OR THINGS IN HEAVEN.
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church:
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26 EVEN THE MYSTERY WHICH HATH BEEN HID FROM AGES AND FROM GENERATIONS, BUT NOW IS MADE MANIFEST TO HIS SAINTS:
27 To whom GOD WOULD MAKE KNOWN WHAT IS THE RICHES OF THE GLORY OF THIS MYSTERY AMONG THE GENTILES; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, THE HOPE OF GLORY:
28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

CONTINUE:

BY HIDING THE LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IN PRESENTING HIS OWN VERSION OF THE TRUTH. Appropriately is he designated "the Devil and Satan which deceiveth the whole world." (#Re 12:9.) In merely appealing to "the best that is within man," and in merely exhorting him "to lead a nobler life," there is afforded a general platform for all shades of opinion and every shade of philosophic speculation. Atheists, Pantheists, Unitarians and all other Sectarians can unite to proclaim this common message.

Again we quote our foundation passage: "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." The Devil's Delusion is that we can be saved by our own works, and justified by our own deeds. Whereas God tells us, "By grace are ye saved through faith, … not of works, lest any man should boast." And again, "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us." #Eph 2:8,9 Tit 3:5.

Perhaps at this point an illustration from personal experience may be pardoned. Some two years ago the writer became acquainted with one who was a lay preacher and an enthusiastic Christian worker. For over seven years he had been engaged in public preaching and religious activities. But from certain expressions and phrases he used, the writer was not satisfied in his own heart that his friend was really a "born [begotten] again" man. When he began to question him he found that he was only very imperfectly acquainted with the Scriptures and had only the vaguest conception of Christ's work for sinners. For a while the writer sought to present the Plan of Salvation in a simple and impersonal way, in the hope that if he were still unsaved God would be pleased to reveal unto him the Savior for sinners. One night to his joy the one who had been preaching the Gospel(?) for seven years confessed that he had found Christ only the previous night. He confessed (to use his own words) that he had been presenting "the Christ ideal," but not the Christ of the Cross. He had been trying to know Christ as the "Truth" before he knew Him as the "Way."

THE WRITER BELIEVES THERE ARE THOUSANDS LIKE THIS PREACHER, who have been brought up in Sunday Schools taught about the birth, life and teachings of Jesus Christ WHO BELIEVE IN THE HISTORICITY OF HIS PERSON, AND WHO THINK THAT IS ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THEIR SALVATION. When they reach manhood and go out into the world they encounter the attacks of atheists and infidels who declare that such a person as Jesus of Nazareth never lived. But THE IMPRESSIONS OF THEIR EARLY DAYS CANNOT EASILY BE ERASED AND THEY REMAIN STEADFAST IN THEIR DECLARATION THAT THEY BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST. Yet when you examine their faith, too often you will find that though they believe about Jesus Christ they do not believe in Him! They believe with the head that such a person lived (and because they believe this, imagine they are saved), but they do not believe with the heart that this Person died to save them from their sins. A MERELY INTELLECTUAL ASSENT TO THE REALITY OF CHRIST'S PERSON AND WHICH GOES NO FURTHER IS ANOTHER PHASE OF THE WAY "WHICH SEEMETH RIGHT UNTO A MAN," BUT THE END THEREOF "ARE THE WAYS OF DEATH!"

Lack of space prevents our doing more than just pointing out other ends of this Way which "seemeth right." Those who are trusting to an outward form of godliness, those who are religious because it is considered a mark of respectability, those who attend the House of God because it is fashionable to do so, and those who join some Church because they imagine that such a step will enable them to become Christians, all such are in the Way which ends in death--death spiritual and eternal.

And NOW, MY READER, WHERE DO YOU STAND? ARE YOU IN THE WAY WHICH "SEEMETH RIGHT," BUT WHICH LEADETH TO DEATH, OR ARE YOU IN THE NARROW WAY WHICH LEADETH TO LIFE ETERNAL? ARE YOU TRUSTING IN YOURSELF OR IN CHRIST? ARE YOU RELYING UPON YOUR OWN WORKS, OR ARE YOU REPOSING UPON THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST? A pious life, a self-sacrificing spirit, attractive manners, a charitable disposition regular attendance at religious services, saying prayers and even reading the Bible, none of these things --nay, all of them together-- WITHOUT FAITH IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST CAN OBTAIN FOR YOU A PASSPORT TO HEAVEN. If any of the above virtues could ever save a single soul, where was the necessity for the awful death of Jesus Christ? No, eternal life is neither a wage nor a reward, but the free Gift of God through Jesus Christ our Lord. However pure your motives, however noble your intentions however well-meaning your purposes, God cannot accept you as a son, until you accept His Son. BY ARTHUR PINK. (MJ FEW COMMENTS 3/8/17)
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03-11-2017, 01:47 PM,
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(03-09-2017, 02:22 AM)MJacob Wrote: In this reprint article written by an apparent past Bible Student named ARTHUR PINK ...

While Arthur Pink was a student of the Bible, he was NOT a Bible Student, or affiliated with them. In fact he changed his theology as much as the Jehovah's Witnesses did. So when you say "Reprint" be advised that such a term in our minds refers to the Watch Tower Reprints of 1874-1916, which in this case, it does not.
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RE: Birth & Resurection
(03-11-2017, 01:47 PM)RR Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 02:22 AM)MJacob Wrote: In this reprint article written by an apparent past Bible Student named ARTHUR PINK ...

While Arthur Pink was a student of the Bible, he was NOT a Bible Student, or affiliated with them. In fact he changed his theology as much as the Jehovah's Witnesses did. So when you say "Reprint" be advised that such a term in our minds refers to the Watch Tower Reprints of 1874-1916, which in this case, it does not.

Thanks RR I have read many of the reprints and topical study articles over the years but had never seen this mans name before. I knew your historical account of past Bible Student history would correct me if I was wrong. It wasn't the author that caught my eye it was the simple truth and logic of the words I read that I found helpful and reasonable. I am not aligned with any man or group, my God and savior is a perfect teacher and helper, so when I find hidden treasures from any source that harmonize with Gods truth I am not afraid to use it. I still use Pastor Russell's lessens and JHP's articles at times even thought I believe differently than the Bible Students these days I still value truth where-ever I can find it and often share it with others.

Thanks RR I hope your situation has improved and Gods spirit is keeping you strong!

I thought I would add this statement I had wrote in 2015 to show how I got the liberty in Christ in the first place. The advantage of not having to answer to any one church or human agency for truth and guidance has given me freedom to use treasures from the past as well as treasures new and unfolding.

Isa 45:1 ¶ Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:
3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
AND
Mt 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

LIBERTY IS THE HOPE

Br. Mike: Did you know without liberty from false perceptions and traditional religion you only end up with false hope! The only hope and divine truth a true spiritual seed or spirit begotten Christian in Christ must seek is the pure hope one finds in the knowledge of Jesus as their God and savior in truth and name recognition. This profound revelation given to the elect faithful by the grace of God allows for true God worship and the anointing of his holy spirit as ones seal and approval established in the son and sanctioned by his father defines who is off God and who is not.

The Christian world in general today are prisoners of what the various religions dictate not what God the father ordained and gave us through and by his only son our God and savior Jesus the Christ who was also the creator God of the Old testament. This holy and inspired knowledge was stolen from Christianity by the enemy of truth we call satan! This enemy of God and man destroyed the true holy arrangement that defines the holy father and sons intentions and true nature with subtle changes to the written words left to us by our forefathers in manuscripts and the scriptural stories. This interference by Lucifer began the long process of deceit and the establishment of an anti-Christ false religion that is nothing more than a counterfeit Christianity.

This anti-Christ substitute world religion has one purpose, it suits the dragons purpose and insults the true plans, glory, honor and will of the father and son, yet looks appealing enough to gullible man to make it appear as light when it is actually darkness, evil and false to the core causing a separation between Gods creation and his truth and holy spirit!

OUR, SPIRIT BEGOTTEN CHRISTIAN, HOPE AND PRAYER TODAY should first address liberty from Lucifer’s evil world influence and his false religious deceptions and distorted traditions rooted in man’s gullibility’s to Lucifer’s will not Gods.

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, TO PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES, AND THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO THEM THAT ARE BOUND;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

LIBERTY IS THE HOPE, or should be, that will brings us to God Jesus Christ who then can reveal himself, his truth and ultimate plans to light in our hearts and minds as we attempt to serve him and our fellow man as he wills and no other. We who claim Christ as our head must have his truth, spirit and liberty combined within our own selves in spiritual unity with his holy spirit if we hope to serve him properly and efficiently. Our service and goal should always be to help other find his light for the sake of all who love righteousness and believe the Lords way is the only way one can understand and evolve into his likeness as a loving and good child of God.

2Co 3:17 Now THE LORD IS THAT SPIRIT: AND WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS, THERE IS LIBERTY.
WITH
Ga 5:1 STAND FAST THEREFORE IN THE LIBERTY WHEREWITH CHRIST HATH MADE US FREE, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

SPEAKING OF JESUS WHO AS JEHOVAH WAS THE FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION AND THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS SUPERIOR FATHER COLOSSIANS EXPLAINS THIS TRUTH IN DETAIL!

Col 1: 15 WHO IS A LIKENESS OF THE GOD OF THAT UNSEEN, FIRST-BORN OF EVERY CREATION;
16 because IN HIM WERE CREATED THE THINGS ALL, THE THINGS IN THE HEAVENS AND THE THINGS ON THE EARTH, THE THINGS SEEN AND THE THINGS UNSEEN, whether thrones, or lordships, or governments, or authorities; the things all on account of him

HE IS IN ADVANCE OF ALL

NOTE: This whole verse in not just talking about Jesus while on earth but who he was before coming to earth and who has become since the crucifixion and glorification he received. It is talking about our God and savior when he was our creator as in Ge 1:1 and John 1:1-3 and how he became our savior in the New Testament story as well. The Word servant was God Jesus helper angel Jesus was the God the Word was his servant. The Word servant was not the servant of Jesus father, this is a deception concocted by Lucifer and has us divided and confused about the father and son ever since it began to pollute the world and religion long ago.
REMEMBER: This one thing Jesus in his now glorified state in much more than a king or minor lord or minor god he is our true GOD and SAVIOR as his father ordained at the time the father brought his only son from out himself to show us all what love really is and can be!

17 and HE IS IN ADVANCE OF ALL, AND THE THINGS ALL IN HIM HAS BEEN PLACED TOGETHER;

JEHOVAH THE SON BECAME JESUS OUR GOD AND SAVIOR TODAY!

18 AND HE IS THE HEAD OF THE BODY, OF THE CONGREGATION; WHO IS A BEGINNING, FIRST-BORN OUT OF THE DEAD ONES, SO THAT HE MIGHT BECOME AMONG ALL HIMSELF PRE-EMINENT;
19 BECAUSE IN HIM IT WAS THOUGHT GOOD ALL THE FULNESS TO INHABIT,
20 AND BY MEANS OF HIM TO RECONCILE THE THINGS ALL TO HIM, HAVING MADE PEACE BY MEANS OF THE BLOOD OF THE CROSS OF HIM, BY MEANS OF HIM, WHETHER THE THINGS ON THE EARTH, OR THE THINGS IN THE HEAVENS.

Here is our hope that we know him the way the father wants, not the way traditional religion guided by Lucifer dictates. Liberty from religion will lead us to liberty in Christ this will bring about unity of the individual believer and start the construction of the body of Christ faith that all have the mind of Christ in them as he is the head of his spiritual congregation or living church temple as the scripture clearly states.

HE IS A REWARDER OF THEM THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM!

Ps 119:2 BLESSED ARE THEY THAT KEEP HIS TESTIMONIES, AND THAT SEEK HIM WITH THE WHOLE HEART.
AND
Heb 11:6 But WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE HIM: FOR HE THAT COMETH TO GOD MUST BELIEVE THAT HE IS, AND THAT HE IS A REWARDER OF THEM THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.

SEEK HIM WITH THE WHOLE HEART!

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HE DWELLS IN THE CHRISTIAN

Mike (MJ: Additional comments.): I was contemplating some very interesting subjects today that came in part from past reprints and topics from the Bible Student library program I came across. It has always been my concern that acceptance by all Christians that they had the holy spirit was a possible deception or traditional assumption. This crucial need of having the spirit and mind of Christ in us or holy spirit anointing, is absolutely relevant to our success in Christ and spiritual finalization as saints. It became clear to me that worshiping God the father and his only son, not by tradition as most do, but in truth by on by revelation from Christ himself was in fact the only means by which the holy spirit could abide in any Christian. I think all would agree that if God is not triune then those who worship God in this matter would not be suitable or able to sustain the holy spirit in a corrupted body with a confused or deceived spiritual connection to false God worship! I think it is logical to believe the holy spirit and the believer must agree with each other on the topic and proper worship of the father and son not just any form of worship will do that is certain.
I wanted to see what past observers thought about the need of the holy spirit anointing meant to them in their time period. I t seems all agreed be it CTR or JHP etc. had the same hope of maintaining and evolving into all that they could be in the spiritual sense was undeniably relevant on said true anointing as the only means to have the mind of Christ abide and help from within. I myself combined the idea of true father and son worship with the anointing and became aware why the lack of said anointing was lacking in the Christian world. I totally agree with the necessity and need of the holy spirit presence within where I differ is what one must believe and understand to obtain this holy spirit presence. I approached this matter in two phases first direct revelation by God who alone can reveal the father and son as it stands in his view which is opposed by tradition and the spirit of anti-Christ. I am convinced the proof of this holy sealing had to be connected with true God worship which by all accounts is not found in main stream Christianity and in most off branch organizations claiming to be Christian in todays world.
I have randomly choose a few articles by various authors from the Bible Student archives and found a remarkable and harmonious belief that without the holy spirit and mind of Christ one could not reach the highest level of spiritual maturity needed to be called one of the elect or wise virgin class. It became clear to me all should consider if they truly have the holy spirit or not by self-examination and heartfelt prayer as this is obviously the most important spiritual dimension any Christian needs to explore and have in these upcoming perilous days that will test the soul and spirit like never before. I believe these wonderful articles from faithful wise men of the past hold profound truths that Christian world seems to have totally forgotten for the most part.
The primary subject being considered with common sense analysis seems to come to the same conclusion by all involved is relevant and speaks a grea truth for certain. The conclusion evolved from these articles with a remarkable united harmonious set of voices from each author all exemplify the need to be complete in Christ must involve the holy spirit of Christ abides literally in any Christians new spirit conciseness. My part is trying to reason and define not only this need of the true anointing but to add the first step in how it is obtained by truth and true God worship. Without the first step the primary hope of being holy spirit anointed can be lost which in most cases leaves one with a sense of being anointed without the true power and spirit of Christ actually being one you in spiritual union necessitates to be one in spiritual union with and by Christ.
This spiritual state of being with the anointing is enhanced more and becoming more relevant by the day. This spiritual awakening and eventual infilling of spirit is brought about specifically for the end time preparation and elevated spiritual position required for success in Christ. This pouring out of spirit by God at first will be directed directed at the chosen wise few and is agreed on by others then myself as proven from what I read in these articles past. I hope you read and carefully and prayerfully consider what this all means for you who seek Christ in us not just around us as is the case for most Christians today. Who one worships in the father and son arrangement and how each perceive this relationship is the KEY or first step in attaining what is called Christ in us, as opposed Christ just watching us from above!
Let’s see if you are a Watcher and truly sealed with the holy spirit of truth and Christ mind.

PAROUSIA VS. EPIPHANIA, APOKALUPSIS.

R2974:page 87

Because not heedless, careless, indifferent servants of the King, but faithful and earnest ones, THE WATCHERS have scrutinized every little particular which fell from the lips of him who spake as never man spake; and all the messages which he has sent them through his faithful apostles and prophets. And discriminating carefully, they discern that there are three words of distinctly different signification, used in respect to the Lord's second advent; namely, parousia and epiphania and apokalupsis.
Parousia is used in respect to the earliest stage of the second advent, while apokalupsis relates to the same advent later; --not that apokalupsis and epiphania relate to another, or a third advent, but merely to a later feature of the second advent. These Greek words, it is true, are somewhat obscure or hidden in the Common Version of the Bible, and undoubtedly for a purpose. The Lord's purpose evidently was to keep the world and the wicked in ignorance of his gracious plan until his due time; nor did he wish the PARTICULARS TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE WATCHERS UNTIL NEAR THE TIME OF THE FULFILMENT. But NOW (MJ: VERY END!) we are "IN THE TIME OF THE END," IN "THE DAY OF HIS PREPARATION," in the time in which it was foretold that then "THE WISE [not the worldlywise, but the humble Watchers who are wise enough to take heed to the Word of the Lord] SHALL UNDERSTAND." (#Da 12:10.) And hence, since many of the Watchers are not Greek scholars, God has made gracious provision through valuable helps (such as Young's Analytical Concordance and the Emphatic Diaglott) so that THE VERY HUMBLEST OF HIS PEOPLE MAY HAVE A CLEAR AND DISCRIMINATE UNDERSTANDING OF THE MEANING OF CERTAIN FEATURES OF HIS WORD WHICH, HITHERTO, HAVE BEEN KEPT HIDDEN UNDER IMPERFECT TRANSLATIONS; and these matters God himself has been bringing to the attention of his people, through MILLENNIAL DAWN, ZION'S WATCH TOWER, and the OLD THEOLOGY TRACTS. The Watchers all over the world are being reached by these "Helping Hands for Bible Students," which the Lord himself is extending to them.

Mike: I agree that these old topical study articles and reprints have helped me partially throughout my search for truth and service to Christ over the past years. What I have come to understand in this process is to Watch is one thing to grow into a complete form of Christlikeness in the spiritual sense is another.

CONTINUED: By these helps, the Watchers are rapidly coming to see that the word "parousia," in our Common Version translated "coming," does not mean what our English word signifies namely, to be on the way, approaching; but that on the CONTRARY IT SIGNIFIES PRESENCE AS OF ONE WHO HAS ALREADY ARRIVED. The Watchers note also that the Scriptures predicate certain things respecting the Lord, and respecting his parousia (his presence) which clearly intimate that HE WILL BE PRESENT AND DOING HIS WORK, HIS GREAT WORK (of setting up his Kingdom and smiting the nations with the sword of his mouth) WHOLLY UNKNOWN TO THE WORLD--AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT. The Watchers also notice that the Scriptures clearly indicate that after the Lord has done certain things during his presence (parousia) and unknown to the world, he will later make a manifestation of his presence--A MANIFESTATION WHICH WILL BE DISCERNED BY ALL MANKIND: AND THIS OUTWARD MANIFESTATION is designated his "epiphania" which signifies "shining forth" or "bright shining."

Mike: It appears to me the past previous watchers only saw Christ coming as a spiritual presence not actually abiding within the faithful literally, assuming unfolding truth in there time actually meant he the Lord in spirit was present and assisting but not yet abiding in them for lack of missing truth had not yet made them ready for the true anointing process. I believe this presence was actual but the true anointing was only an assumption then and even to this day. The fact is by history as our proof exposes the Lords presence as helper, then for a time, begins to fade as time went forth as truth and light did not shine brighter for the world to see as the scriptures indicates the Parousia process should evolve into a “MANIFESTATION WHICH WILL BE DISCERNED BY ALL MANKIND”. This obviously did not occur and has not occurred to this present day. The understanding of said process by some in the past has not manifested itself into what the Lord deems a spiritual dynamic presence that in time the whole world would in some way recognize as substantial and undeniable or “OUTWARD MANIFESTATION”.

CONTINUED: THE WATCHERS keep separate these two thoughts (PRESENCE AND MANIFESTATION) respecting the Lord's second coming; that although really present a spirit being (like the angels who, we are told, encamp round about them that fear God and deliver them and who are "all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister to those who shall be heirs of salvation," and whose ministry is an invisible one) OUR LORD, NOW A GLORIOUS SPIRIT BEING, OF THE DIVINE NATURE, WILL NOT BE MANIFEST TO THE NATURAL EYE DURING HIS PRESENCE--HIS PAROUSIA.--# Ps 34:7 Heb 1:14.

Hence the necessity that the Lord's faithful ones shall "watch," because they, no more than the world, can discern a spirit being with their natural eyes. THE WATCHERS IN DUE TIME ARE TO DISCERN THE PRESENCE (PAROUSIA) OF THEIR LORD BY THE EYE OF FAITH. The sleepless eye of faith will in due time take note of the "sign of the Son of Man,"--the indications of the presence of the King.

Mike: It is clear that the Lords holy spirit will be present in his faithful at the end of this present age. The question has to be has this holy spirit presence been in place in the past or is it due in the present? I know from experience the belief by all who claim to be Christian, past and present, is that the holy spirit abides in them is a common belief shared by all Christians past and present.
We all can agree this has not been the case and from my observations to this very day still is not the case. Division and confusion still reign in Christianity and the many so called truth groups have become, more or less, a reflection of the same affliction or cause and effect that main stream Christianity suffers from even though in a lesser degree.
It seems clear to me that the time frame is the key for this occurrence and those thus watching should without a doubt recognize the shining light stand out in the darkness of today. To understand this parsousia process is one thing to put in place before it’s time is due is another.

THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE GREAT TEACHER

CONTINUED: During the period of the parousia (presence) preceding the epiphania (shining forth) A CERTAIN WORK WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED UNKNOWN TO THE WORLD, UNKNOWN TO THE NOMINAL CHURCH, KNOWN ONLY TO THE WATCHERS. Ah, how important to us the words of our Master, exhorting us to be Watchers! And, by the way, this watching includes a watching of our own hearts as well as of the Lord's Word and the outward signs--TO INSURE OUR WORTHINESS TO BE CONTINUED IN THE LIGHT AND UNDER THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THE GREAT TEACHER. "If any man have not the spirit of Christ he is none of his;" THEREFORE IF ANY MAN LOSE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST HE CEASES TO BE HIS; and hence we all need to "watch" that we may, as the Scriptures direct "Keep our garments unspotted from the world;" and "keep ourselves in the love of God while looking for the grace [aid] of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is able to keep us from falling and to present us faultless in the presence of his glory with exceeding joy." (#Jude 21,24) .
For WHOEVER HAS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST MAY BE A WATCHER, and as a Watcher may know of the gracious things connected with the great "salvation which shall be brought unto us AT THE REVELATION OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST;" but WHOEVER CEASES TO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST MUST, OF NECESSITY, CEASE ALSO TO BE A WATCHER, AND SHALL BE IN IGNORANCE OF THE THINGS OF THE DAY OF THE LORD, LIKE THE WORLD, OF WHICH HE WOULD THEN PROBABLY BE A PART.

Mike: Here is the crux of the matter “WHOEVER CEASES TO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST MUST, OF NECESSITY, CEASE ALSO TO BE A WATCHER, AND SHALL BE IN IGNORANCE OF THE THINGS OF THE DAY OF THE LORD, LIKE THE WORLD, OF WHICH HE WOULD THEN PROBABLY BE A PART”. I noticed these two things from the last paragraph, Christ alone is to be our primary instructor and it is by his holy spirit alone that one can understand the deep things of Christ who has the mind and spirit of Christ abiding in oneself. I also noticed a believer even a watcher can lose the holy spirit of Christ under certain circumstances which will be better explained as we read further.

CONTINUED: As THE LIGHT BY WHICH THE EYE OF FAITH MAY DISCERN the parousia we have the "more sure word of prophecy to which we do well to take heed." It has shone upon the pathway of the Watchers all along through this night; but now its various prophetic rays have focused and clearly indicate that we (MJ: Assumed not substantiated by the obvious historical results we can access today!) are already living "in the days of the Son of Man," while, as he expressly foretold, THE WORLD IN GENERAL GOES ON AS USUAL, IN UTTER IGNORANCE OF HIS PRESENCE AND OF HIS HARVEST WORK AND OF THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY OF THE LORD; it continues as usual--eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, planting and building. It is a mistake to suppose that our Lord, in giving this information respecting the events of the time of his presence, meant us to understand that it would be wicked for the world to eat, drink, plant, build and marry; these are not improper things, and any such interpretation is strained and faulty, and results from an utter misconception of the subject. Our Lord wished merely to show that the world would be in ignorance of his presence "in the days of the Son of Man," and in utter ignorance of the great time of trouble, or "Day of Vengeance" which the inauguration of his Kingdom will signify to the kingdoms of this world, which are to be dashed to pieces as potters’ vessels. The ignorance of the impending trouble here will be similar to that of the people who lived in the days of Noah. "As it was in the days of Noah so also shall it be in the days of the Son of Man."-- #Lu 17:26.

As "the days of Noah" were not days before Noah's time neither are "the days of the Son of Man" days before the Son of Man's presence. THE DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN ARE THE DAYS OF HIS PAROUSIA OR PRESENCE, --INVISIBLE AND UNKNOWN TO THE WORLD; KNOWN ONLY TO THE WATCHERS AND SEEN BY THEM ONLY WITH THE EYE OF FAITH. "As in the days that were before the flood they were eating, drinking, marrying, … and knew not … so shall also the [parousia] (presence) of the Son of Man be:"-- the world will simply go on about its usual affairs, and know not of the Lord's presence.--# Mt 24:38.

But why should our Lord be thus present? What will be his work during the period of presence preceding his epiphania or manifestation to the world?

Mike: This is the question we must pray and search for today. Those who saw this in the past knew the importance of this “the [parousia] (presence) of the Son of Man” in their time but fell short of providing the essential spiritual presence as fact instead only made the understanding of said event understood but lacking the light to make it fact except in word only. The next article reflects many of the spiritual aspects that must become relevant in the end times. These truths without exception must be recognized as such by those who have the spiritual presence of Christ mind within for the necessary means to carry out the primary course that makes one a successful overcomer in Christ.

WILL THE SPIRIT BE WITHDRAWN?
R162: page 8

At what point will the Spirit's work for Christians be complete? WE ANSWER, NOT UNTIL WE ARE BORN OF THE SPIRIT. Our Head--the Lord Jesus Christ--was born of the Spirit more than 1800 years ago, and we as members of His body must and will follow Him into the same life, and BY THE SAME POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. The birth of the Head secures the birth of the body in due time.

If as some claim Christ the Head is to return to His church under the vail of the flesh (MJ: Abiding in spirit in the elect or selected few!) TO COMPLETE THE EDUCATION OF HIS CHURCH, and that then because He returns, (MJ: Spiritual presence abides in his elect!) the Spirit is to be withdrawn, (MJ: Note withdrawn but returns at the end of this age!) would it not prove the Spirit incompetent to do the work to which He (Christ holy spirit!) was appointed by the Lord Himself, viz: TO LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH AND BRING US TO THE BIRTH.

Mike: I ask just how important is it to have Christ in us if we hope for spiritual completion by Christ “TO LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH AND BRING US TO THE BIRTH”? This divine or holy aspect is well stated in the next segment below.

THE SPIRIT IS CHRIST REPRESENTATIVE IN US, and Paul uses the terms `SPIRIT OF GOD,’ `SPIRIT OF CHRIST’ AND `CHRIST IN YOU’ INTERCHANGEABLY. {#Ro 8:9-10 }. Now if an external, visible Christ is a superior teacher to Christ in us, it would not have been expedient for us for Christ to go away and send the Comforter.

Mike: If this was true in the past just much more important is it today to have this holy spirit anointing present in possibly the last generation of believers alive in today’s 2017 present evil world! I mean if this brother in the past believed this to be true before the due time how much more must any of the liberated elect of today understand and strive for spiritual intervention and hopeful liberation by revelation and ultimate oneness with Christ in spirit and mind union?

READ NEXT CAREFULLY!: Don’t worry about the author look for the light of truth in the words even if the man does not measure up to your judgement and church theology expectations.

IT IS CHRIST IN US, OR THE INDWELLING OF THE SPIRIT, THAT MAKES US CHRISTIANS OR SONS OF GOD. {#Ro 8:8-17 }. HE DWELLS IN THE CHRISTIAN
This is the real and only difference between us and the world. He strives with the man of the world to lead him to God; but HE DWELLS IN THE CHRISTIAN. We can conceive the idea of the Spirit's (for some special reason) ceasing to strive with man, as when the Lord spoke to Noah: `MY SPIRIT SHALL NOT ALWAYS STRIVE WITH MAN;’ BUT WE CANNOT CONCEIVE THE IDEA OF THE SPIRIT BEING WITHDRAWN FROM THE CHRISTIAN, WITHOUT HIS CEASING TO BE A CHRISTIAN. TAKE THE SPIRIT FROM THE CHURCH, AND THEY WOULD BE NOTHING BUT A COMPANY OF MERE NATURAL MEN--MEN IN THE FLESH.

HE DWELLS IN THE CHRISTIAN A CHILD CEASES TO BE A CHILD BY BECOMING A MAN

‘So, then, they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the spirit of Christ, he is none of His.' {#Ro 8:8,9 }. The only way that the work of the spirit can cease is by being perfected. In this sense, Paul speaks of several things ceasing--prophecies, tongues and knowledge ({#1Co 13:8 }); but he explains it: `For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.' Verses 9,10. So also, he says, A CHILD CEASES TO BE A CHILD BY BECOMING A MAN. Ver. 11. ‘Now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face.’ We can only cease to be begotten children of God by being born. God's plan moves on to perfection.

That it is possible that we might be born of the Spirit, and for a time remain in appearance as natural men, as did Christ, after He was raised from the dead, we do not deny. Such may be the case. But the Spirit cannot resign his work until it is complete. J. H. P.


THE NEW CREATURE ON TRIAL
R5439:page 117

THE NEW CREATURE WILL BE IN DANGER OF DEATH

Mike: With this thought in mind “THE NEW CREATURE WILL BE IN DANGER OF DEATH” combined with the necessity previously stated above “IT IS CHRIST IN US, OR THE INDWELLING OF THE SPIRIT, THAT MAKES US CHRISTIANS OR SONS OF GOD. {#Ro 8:8-17 }. HE DWELLS IN THE CHRISTIAN” that I think should be the main focus by all who claim to be Christian as their primary concern and goal. Needless to say if the New Creature can die for lack of spiritual growth primarily due to the absence of Christ holy spirit presence within should we not all evaluate this thoroughly and not just assume we have said spirit and are where the Lord wants us to be as mature spiritual sons and daughters in his service.

CONTINUE: Since THIS NEW MIND, THE NEW WILL, THE SPIRIT-BEGOTTEN NEW CREATURE, has its present residence in the old body and since this body, the New Creature's only instrument of operation, has still its old tendencies toward sin--its weaknesses, its depravities--therefore there is a continual struggle between the New Creature and the old. It is a daily warfare, and either one or the other must perish. If the New Creature be not alert, thoroughly active, thoroughly loyal to God, the weaknesses of the flesh will gradually assert themselves, and THE NEW CREATURE WILL BE IN DANGER OF DEATH.

If, on the contrary, THE NEW CREATURE REMAIN LOYAL TO GOD, THE OLD CREATURE WILL PERISH. THE ONE OR THE OTHER MUST DIE BEFORE THE CONFLICT IS OVER. It is a fight to the finish. And this conflict is a test of the New Creature-- not of the old creature. The New Creature has been called to glory, honor and immortality. In order to attain this state, it must prove unquestionably its loyalty to God. In proportion as the new mind controls, and we love righteousness and hate iniquity, in that same proportion shall we have strength in battling with the forces outside, with the conditions of the present time; and the greater success shall we have in battling with our own flesh.

IN THIS WARFARE THERE MAY BE SOMETIMES MORE AND SOMETIMES LESS SUCCESS. BUT NOT UNTIL THE VICTORY IS WON WILL THE LORD GRANT THE REWARD. "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My Throne." The thing to be demonstrated is loyalty to God, loyalty to the principles of righteousness, and to our covenant. Those who are most loyal and most devoted to God will come off "more than conquerors" and will gain the highest reward, will sit with Jesus in His Throne.

Some will come off overcomers, but not on so high a plane, needing the special tribulations to assist them. But even though they fail to come to the highest standard, they will, nevertheless, come off overcomers; else they would never get any share in the Heavenly reward, nor life at
all. These will form the Great Company, who come up out of the great tribulation and wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (#Re 7:14.) They will be greatly favored in that they will be the honored servants of the glorified Bride class, who are to constitute the "more than conquerors."

Mike With/Edits & Comments 4/3/17
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04-24-2017, 12:45 AM,
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RE: Birth & Resurection
SPIRITUAL UNITY AND DEVINE INFLUENCE

As far as we can estimate from the scriptural account only spiritual beings, God the father and his only begotten son Jehovah/Jesus the Christ, angels etc. have the ability to share their inner spirits power and wisdom, character traits and presence outside of themselves with mankind from a distance by direct contact. The spiritual influence and power of Jesus father, God the Eternal one who had no beginning, was within his only self-created son from the time of his creation as his titles portray, the son Jehovah in the Old Testament now today the glorified son we call Jesus the Christ. From the time he as the only begotten divine spiritual son of the highest eternal God brought forth out of his father the only son was ordained and commissioned to be creator of all things and eventually to be the savior of mankind whom he, the son Jehovah, alone had created by the power his father had placed in him at the time of his creation. All power and all knowledge were part of Gods only sons make up from his very beginning. All this was accomplished according to the will and defined plans instituted by his father which he placed in his only son for the future sake of creations survival, Gods only son Jehovah/Jesus was to become the only God and savior to all creation.
These next few verses sum up the facts that clearly define our God and savior Jesus the Christ was and is a created secondary God only lower in status than his Eternal Father who unlike his son had no beginning or end.

Joh 10:29 MY FATHER, WHICH GAVE THEM ME, IS GREATER THAN ALL; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
Joh 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, THE SERVANT IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS LORD; NEITHER HE THAT IS SENT GREATER THAN HE THAT SENT HIM.
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.

TWO BIRTHS, ONE SON, ONE FATHER, FIRST THE SPIRITUAL BIRTH OF JEHOVAH THE SON

Joh 16:28 ¶ I CAME OUT FROM THE FATHER, and have come into the world; again I leave the world; and am going to the Father.
COMPARE
Col 12: 15 who is a likeness of the God of that unseen, FIRST-BORN OF EVERY CREATION;

(NOTE: This first-born of every creation proclamation includes all beings spiritual and physical beings, angels and mankind the primary example! This does not refer to our God being transformed into the human babe Jesus it refers to who Jesus was before he came to earth. We know Jesus father did leave heaven and come to earth! We also know from scriptures Jesus was a God come to earth not an angel! The God who came to earth as Jesus the man was and is the God of the Old Testament called Yahweh or Jehovah who took on a new name that reflected his position and status as not just a God but after Jesus died his title then included God and savior forever more. The proof of this arrangement is easily seen throughout scripture if you remove traditional beliefs and bad translation errors. With this reset in understanding a whole new deeper insight to the father and son arrangement takes effect and a re-evaluation of scripture can begin allowing a growth in spirit to evolve like never before showing truth as God proclaims it over the confused and divided state we see encompassing captive Christianity today. )

CONTINUE: CHRIST CREATION

17 and HE IS IN ADVANCE OF ALL, AND THE THINGS ALL IN HIM HAS BEEN PLACED TOGETHER;
PLUS
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. (Jehovah God the son as Jesus the man became the only God and savior of creation!)

JESUS IS OUR ONLY SAVIOR AND ALSO OUR CREATOR GOD AND FATHER

Ac 4:12 NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.
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Isa 43:11 I, EVEN I, AM THE LORD; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR.
WITH

SUMMATION WITH SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE DEFINING GOD AND SAVIOR

Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and THERE IS NO GOD ELSE BESIDE ME; A JUST GOD AND A SAVIOUR; THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME. AKA God Jehovah/Jesus!

GOD JESUS IS OUR ONLY TRUE GOD AND SAVIOR IN ONE DIVINE SON

Lu 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in GOD MY SAVIOUR.

Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST; (One title applied to the glorified Jesus Christ alone!)
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

AGAIN: GOD OUR SAVIOUR

Jude 1:25 To THE ONLY WISE GOD OUR SAVIOUR, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Joh 17:5 And now, O FATHER, GLORIFY THOU ME WITH THINE OWN SELF WITH THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
(That glory was what Jesus had as God of the Old Testament as he stood by his father’s side before he came to earth as Jesus the man who was to be our savior in time.)
WHO IS A LIKENESS OF THE GOD OF THAT UNSEEN, FIRST-BORN OF EVERY CREATION

Col 1: 12 ¶ giving thanks to the Father to that having fitted us for the portion of the inheritance of the holy ones in the light;
13 who delivered us from the authority of the darkness, and caused a change of sides for the kingdom of the son of the love of himself;
14 in whom we have the redemption the forgiveness of the sins;
15 WHO IS A LIKENESS OF THE GOD OF THAT UNSEEN, FIRST-BORN OF EVERY CREATION;

FROM JEHOVAH/JESUS CREATION TO THE CREATION OF ALL OTHER THINGS BY HIS OWN POWER

16 because IN HIM WERE CREATED THE THINGS ALL, THE THINGS IN THE HEAVENS AND THE THINGS ON THE EARTH, THE THINGS SEEN AND THE THINGS UNSEEN, WHETHER THRONES, OR LORDSHIPS, OR GOVERNMENTS, OR AUTHORITIES; THE THINGS ALL ON ACCOUNT OF HIM

AGAIN: HE IS IN ADVANCE OF ALL

17 AND HE IS IN ADVANCE OF ALL, AND THE THINGS ALL IN HIM HAS BEEN PLACED TOGETHER;

OUR CREATOR GOD THE SON TRANSITIONS INTO OUR SAVIOR RIGHT AFTER HIS DEATH AND GLORIFICATION

18 and HE IS THE HEAD OF THE BODY, OF THE CONGREGATION; WHO IS A BEGINNING, FIRST-BORN OUT OF THE DEAD ONES, SO THAT HE MIGHT BECOME AMONG ALL HIMSELF PRE-EMINENT;
19 because in him it was thought good all the fulness to inhabit,
20 and by means of him to reconcile the things all to him, having made peace by means of the blood of the cross of him, by means of him, whether the things on the earth, or the things in the heavens.

JEHOVAH RENAMED JESUS OUR CHRIST AT HIS SECOND HUMAN BIRTH

Mt 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

The son or God the son Jehovah/Jesus was brought forth from within his eternal divine father and reflects his father’s image, character and will perfectly and is the only rightful one that can be called a savior of all the living beings he alone had created.

THE ONLY-BEGOTTEN AND SAVIOR SON

Joh 3:16 Thus for loved the God the world, so that THE SON OF HIMSELF THE ONLY-BEGOTTEN he gave, that every one who believing into him, not may be destroyed, but may have life age-lasting.
17 Not for SENT THE GOD THE SON OF HIMSELF INTO THE WORLD, that he might judge the world, but THAT MIGHT BE SAVED THE WORLD THROUGH HIM.
18 He believing into him, not is judged; he but not believing, already is judged, became not HE HAS BELIEVED INTO THE NAME OF THE ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON OF THE GOD.
19 This and is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and loved the man rather the darkness, than the light; was for evil of them the works.
20 Every one for the vile things doing, hates the light, and not comes to the light, that not may be detected the works of him.
21 HE BUT DOING THE TRUTH COMES TO THE LIGHT, SO THAT MAY BE MADE MANIFEST OF HIM THE WORKS, THAT IN GOD IT IS HAVING BEEN DONE.

It is clear this connection or anointing process must be instituted directly by God who alone can infuse his holy spirit into whom he may choose and prepare for such an occurance or direct union with God himself in the spiritual sense. Only those predesignated elect in whatever honored position they may find themselves who have received the inner spiritual seed of life upon their confession and salvation have access to this holy spirit anointing which begins by accepting Jesus Christ as their personal savior and creator God through his blood sacrifice for their sins. This uniting of spirit has its limitations and is dependent on one’s devotion, faith offering and understanding of the God and savior concept, worship practices, truth understanding and ultimate harmony with God the son and his father in a holy personnel spiritual union with both the father and son.

SPIRITUAL UNION AND HARMONY WITH THE FATHER AND SON

Joh 10:30 I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.
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Joh 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Simply stated to have the one mind and holy spirit presence of Jesus Christ and his father within, you must not only believe in Jesus Christ as your only savior but elevate your understanding and worship towards Jesus Christ accurately if you hope to have an effective spiritual relationship with the father and son. Believing in Jesus name requires a divine understanding of who your God and savior really is in harmony with divine truth with corresponding understanding for true God worship.

Isa 45: 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and THERE IS NO GOD ELSE BESIDE ME; A JUST GOD AND A SAVIOUR; THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME.
22 LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED, ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That UNTO ME EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TONGUE SHALL SWEAR.
AND
Ro 14: 9 For TO THIS END CHRIST BOTH DIED, AND ROSE, AND REVIVED, THAT HE MIGHT BE LORD BOTH OF THE DEAD AND LIVING.
11 For it is written, As I LIVE, SAITH THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS TO GOD.
AND
Php 2:10 That AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, OF THINGS IN HEAVEN, AND THINGS IN EARTH, AND THINGS UNDER THE EARTH;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, (OUR GOD AND SAVIOR) to the glory of God the Father.

To believe in Jesus and confess your sins opens the door to your new inner spiritual seed of life thus allowing under divine direction and corresponding faith, obedience and endurance the possibility of becoming one in spirit with Christ mind and spirit abiding in the faithful. It is by the will of your God and savior Jesus to create within you the beginning seed of spiritual life and nurture that seed with his own spirit through the anointing process this is clear from many scriptures we read. HERE ARE FEW VERSES THAT PROVE THIS FACT!

Eze 36:26 A NEW HEART ALSO WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them

THE NECESSITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ONESELF IS OBVIOUS FOR COMPLETION IN CHRIST AND GAINING THE CROWN OF LIFE AS ONE OF THE ELECTED FEW

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT.

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, IF SO BE THAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS.

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: HOW MUCH MORE SHALL YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?

1Co 3:16 ¶ Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLETH IN YOU?
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Ga 4:6 And because ye are sons, GOD HATH SENT FORTH THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON INTO YOUR HEARTS, crying, Abba, Father.

If your hope is to be one in spirit with Christ and you desire to be a completed overcomer in Christ it must be accomplished according the call and narrow path Jesus Christ sets before you there is no other way to gain a crown of glory. Salvation is obviously a first step process leading you to a potential future spirit being existence once you earn the right to a spiritual body like God Jesus now has is the highest reward imaginable. Before the holy spirit of God the son or his father can abide in you and unite with your new inner spiritual self you must by faith bow down to God the son and acknowledge his father in truth with an understanding of who the son really is and where his father stands in the original father- son arrangement. To worship the son and father in anything outside of divine truth is worshiping God and his son under false pretenses causing a separation of the holy spirit with the inner spirit of the faithful Christian on the other hand to worship falsely by following the misguided theological carnal minded that leads to one getting caught up in false anti- Christ religious circles that dominate in the world of today is obviously a dead end to the spiritual hope and rewards sought by all the true faithful.
Complete spiritual unity involves all the divine attributes of God himself from the father through the son on down to all of the God the son’s creation and beyond. To separate your-self completely from the carnal vessel your inner spirit must become as Jesus and see yourself as one with your father and creator Jehovah the son Jesus just the way Jesus saw himself one in spirit with his father God Eternal the only God with no beginning.
To help explain spiritual completeness of this holy unity with God the son and his father I use these primary self-explanatory verses which say it better than I can with mere words of a incomplete spiritual man. Read them as a story which when viewed in their spiritual harmony and wisdom help us better understand the fullness and depth unto which God has called us. By definition these words of God explain how unity and purity of spiritual oneness resolve and simplify the transition process from the carnal physical life and thought process into the grander form of life and wisdom the holy spirit and your spirit can reach together.
Read and see if the spirit speaks to your inner spiritual self and ask in the spirit speaking will enter and reveal his true self to you in spiritual power and abide in your heart forever.

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: HOW MUCH MORE SHALL YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?

When the holy spirit knocks on your door it is your true God and savior trying to speak to you whose only desire is in wanting to come in and help you in every way possible. First God Jesus must knock then it is up to you to let him come in and reveal himself to you. I have done this and my spiritual inner self has risen to levels I never imagined and my eyes of understanding see truths I never could see before. It is more than just life changing it is eternal life and light with no end bound by Gods love and guided by God Jesus very own holy spirit forever.

Joh 10:30 I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.

Joh 14:10 BELIEVEST THOU NOT THAT I AM IN THE FATHER, AND THE FATHER IN ME? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

ANOINTED JESUS WHO IN A FORM OF GOD BEING

Diaglot Php 2: 5 This for be desired by you which also in ANOINTED JESUS,
6 WHO IN A FORM OF GOD BEING, not a usurpation meditated the to be like to God,
7 but himself emptied, a form of a slave having taken, in a likeness of men having been formed,
8 and in condition being found as a man; humbled himself, having become obedient till death, of a death even of a cross.
9 THEREFORE ALSO THE GOD HIM SUPREMELY EXALTED, AND FREELY GRANTED TO HIM A NAME THAT ABOVE EVERY NAME;
10 SO THAT IN THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BEND OF HEAVENLIES AND OF EARTHLIES AND OF UNDERGROUND ONES,
11 and every tongue should confess, that a Lord Jesus Anointed, for glory of God a Father.

THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU THEY ARE SPIRIT

Joh 6:63 IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT, AND THEY ARE LIFE.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT.

Ro 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but THEY THAT ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT.

HE THAT IS JOINED UNTO THE LORD IS ONE SPIRIT

1Co 6:17 But HE THAT IS JOINED UNTO THE LORD IS ONE SPIRIT.

1Co 12:13 For BY ONE SPIRIT ARE WE ALL BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY, WHETHER WE BE JEWS OR GENTILES, WHETHER WE BE BOND OR FREE; AND HAVE BEEN ALL MADE TO DRINK INTO ONE SPIRIT.

Eph 2:18 For THROUGH HIM WE BOTH HAVE ACCESS BY ONE SPIRIT UNTO THE FATHER.

Ro 15:6 That ye may with ONE MIND AND ONE MOUTH GLORIFY GOD, EVEN THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Zep 3:9 For THEN WILL I TURN TO THE PEOPLE A PURE LANGUAGE, THAT THEY MAY ALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD, TO SERVE HIM WITH ONE CONSENT.

NOTE: This last verse below sums it all up as the title says it perfectly. Because Jesus the son had the holy spirit of his father and creator God Eternal in him it does not make the son his own father explain why the son is the son and the father is the father has only one conclusion the son came forth from his father thus father and son began. Jesus having his father’s holy spirit in him from his beginning does mean he is his own father. What this means is all who have the spirit of the son and father are not only in touch with God but with each other who of like faith have had God the son revealed to them had not only believed but let him inside to abide in spirit with them once it was offered. THIS INNER SPIRITUAL PRESENCE OF GOD JESUS WITHIN ONESELF IS MEANT TO BE PERMANENT!
This spiritual unity of God and child brings with it many blessings like Gods perpetual wisdom, his unlimited depth of love and grace for all creation and the divine purpose of all life and his eternal purpose and hopes for all his creation in general.

THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US AND THE GLORY WHICH THOU GAVEST ME I HAVE GIVEN THEM; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE

Joh 17: 20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 AND THE GLORY WHICH THOU GAVEST ME I HAVE GIVEN THEM; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE:
23 I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, THAT THEY MAY BE MADE PERFECT IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

WOULDN’T YOU LIKE TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR GOD AND SAVIOR ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME? Talk to him he is listening ask him to come to your door and knock and when he does don’t hesitate to answer and let him into your spiritual heart and mind, listen to all he says it will bless you forever and ever!
I pray this for you and me:

THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, THAT THEY MAY BE MADE PERFECT IN ONE

The main focus in this study I was trying to show was how only by an individual’s inner spirit united to Gods holy spirit can anyone hopes to have the mind of Christ and holy spirit helps required to be a completed overcomer in Christ. It is the understanding of the father and son relationship that opens the door so the holy spirit may enter the mind and heart of the faithful few who understand this arrangement, in truth and worship, who for the most part already have the spiritual seed in them by faith in Jesus Christ.
Understanding the father son relationship is imperative to becoming one with the father and son in spirit not just in your proclamation to salvation in Christ, this is the first step that hopefully will lead one to spiritual unity with their God and savior. Let me try to explain by giving you three examples of what is a false perception of God and his son. The first is there is only one God the father and his son is neither a God nor an angel just a spiritual son. The second is God is three in one as called the trinity which 90 % of all Christians believe is true today. The third is a small percentage of believers believe Jesus was the angel Michael but not a God or their creator. These three examples are ways many today in Gods eyes are worshiping strange gods as the scriptures put it.

Ge 35:2 Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, PUT AWAY THE STRANGE GODS THAT ARE AMONG YOU, AND BE CLEAN, AND CHANGE YOUR GARMENTS:

The father and son are the only divine sources who can reveal the truth about the father and son arrangement. Only the holy spirit of the father and son can make you understand this relationship as it really is by direct revelation with the holy spirits power and wisdom. You can never fully understand this concept with the carnal approach or by theological intellectual reasoning and the corrupted tradition teachings found in the main stream world Christian anti-Christ influenced divided false church systems of today.

Lu 10:22 ALL THINGS ARE DELIVERED TO ME OF MY FATHER: AND NO MAN KNOWETH WHO THE SON IS, BUT THE FATHER; AND WHO THE FATHER IS, BUT THE SON, AND HE TO WHOM THE SON WILL REVEAL HIM.

So the best anyone of faith can do is tell others who they believe is the father and the son, this is the best we can do at the moment with what we as individuals believe is true. I have believed at one time or another two of the above false teachings on the father and son. I am as guilty as anyone who calls themselves Christian of worshiping a strange god in my past.
I have to believe the God and son I worship today is the correct one otherwise I am willingly worshiping another strange god. What is ironic is all Christians will tell you they believe with all their heart that they are worshiping the true God and his son in truth even though most are speaking from a traditional standpoint not from a spiritual revelation from God for the most part . Here is the dilemma of true God worship; the enemy has placed before us all many choices while God tells us there is only one true path to righteousness and rightful God worship. The false worship of God the father and God the son is why we are divided and confused for the most part.
I say there is two Gods, one the father the other his son. God the father had no beginning and his name has been hidden from us and no one physical has ever heard his voice or seen him except his son. The second lesser God is a created spiritual being and only son of God Eternal, who as the only begotten son of the higher eternal God, making him God the son and savior of creation.
I believe my view is an old understanding which ended or was covered over by false gods invented by the enemy Lucifer soon after the apostles passed away. If you think about it, isn’t that exactly what you would think Lucifer would want, is to hide who Jesus really was and have all creation believe one of his many lies about who Jesus wasn’t? Lucifer says Jesus is not our God and savior! Lucifer makes us believe Jesus father is our God and savior not his only begotten son! I believe Jesus was creator God who came to be our savior he alone is our true God and savior as ordained by his eternal father our grandest God so to speak.
That this view is not shared by many and has only been revealed to a few, so far, does not surprise me at all. I believe soon many will have this truth revealed and be able to understand as the holy spirit provides the wisdom it takes to see it as truth from God once this event takes place.

Joe 2: 28 ¶ And it shall come to pass afterward, that I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the HANDMAIDS IN THOSE DAYS WILL I POUR OUT MY SPIRIT.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND THE TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.
32 AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE DELIVERED: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and IN THE REMNANT WHOM THE LORD SHALL CALL.

It makes sense to me that this understanding would be saved or allowed to be hidden until the very end of the age for the sake of preparation of the saints with the sealing in the minds and hearts of God’s chosen ones, the true identity of Jesus Christ being the seal that says they belong to him, they that understand are his spiritual body and have the seal of his approval and ownership as spiritual sons and daughters because they bear the only correct truth about the father and son.
So you see this all about the spiritual promise for today and it is by our spirit when the revelation by Gods holy spirit is applied. This final harvest of the wise virgins and wheat class will be accomplished on time as prophesied long ago and recorded in scripture for us to understand today.
Consider all of this from a spiritual standpoint and it will make sense, read it from a carnal intellectual approach and you will see and understand nothing of spiritual relevance. You have to trust God in spirit because he is spirit and if you have the spiritual starting seed of life in you already it needs spiritual food and guidance otherwise it may die from lack of God’s love and care.

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The spiritual hope can be aborted and lost and we are in the days when the testing for spiritual life or death will take place for all established living Christians. Some Christians dead and alive today will go on to the heavenly promise some will lose that hope and remain on earth and hopefully accept the earthly promise that is the only hope and reward left.
The shaking of earth will help in the release of the many Christian captives chosen by God Jesus who right now are help in organized fable region by satans power and lies.

Isa 61:1 THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GOD IS UPON ME; BECAUSE THE LORD HATH ANOINTED ME TO PREACH GOOD TIDINGS UNTO THE MEEK; HE HATH SENT ME TO BIND UP THE BROKENHEARTED, TO PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES, AND THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO THEM THAT ARE BOUND;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

To most the shaking is frightening! To me it is the sign that Gods is near and hope for many Christians is at hand and that to me is a good thing for the blessings to come for all mankind in the coming earthly kingdom.

Mt 6:10 THY KINGDOM COME. THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH, AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
AGAIN
Lu 11:2 And he said unto them, WHEN YE PRAY, SAY, OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. (GOD JEHOVAH/ JESUS OUR GLORIFIED GOD AND SAVIOR!) THY KINGDOM COME. THY WILL BE DONE, AS IN HEAVEN, SO IN EARTH.

WOULDN’T YOU LIKE TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR GOD AND SAVIOR ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME? Talk to him he is listening ask him to come to your door and knock and when he does don’t hesitate to answer and let him into your spiritual heart and mind, listen to all he says it will bless you forever and ever!

I pray this for you and me:

THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, THAT THEY MAY BE MADE PERFECT IN ONE

Here is a link from old Jews for Jesus forum old archive talks that cover much of this same subject I hope this added material and talks may help clarify the subject or give more proof of scripture on these matters. The archives are closed so you cannot add post or even ask questions to the posters except by personal e-mail!

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06-05-2017, 01:26 AM,
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RE: Birth & Resurection
Hi I just wanted to share this post with anyone reading on this forum, it was a response to another post on the PTF forum I posted today.

Hello realperson2010 PTF forum,

In your answer I noticed this statement “HE RECEIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT” which you apply to all who claim to be of the Christian faith. On the suffice this seems innocent enough but in reality is the anointing of the holy spirit automatic no matter how one views the father and son even if they are in error by believing Jesus is less than our Lord and savior or that his father deserves all the titles and honors that were meant to bestowed on his son like one savior, creator of all things or father of angels and humanity?

realperson2010 Quote: Once a person accepts Jesus and believes into Him, HE RECEIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT and becomes “begotten” by the Spirit to begin a new life as a new creature.

It seems to me for anyone to have the anointing of the holy spirit one must worship the father and son in truth not by the many mixed versions provided by the many religious definitions of God and his only son. I guess the question I am asking is can any Christian who worships the father and son in error even though they have claimed Jesus as savior still have the holy spirit abide in them even though they actually do not know the father and son in truth?
It is clear not all Christians will have the holy spirit at the time of the Lords presence on the earth in the end times. There is a defining factor and to me it revolves around inspired truth with understanding and faithful service and accurate worship of the father and son “THEY THAT WORSHIP HIM MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH”.

Joh 4:23 But THE HOUR COMETH, AND NOW IS, WHEN THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS SHALL WORSHIP THE FATHER IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH: FOR THE FATHER SEEKETH SUCH TO WORSHIP HIM.
24 God is a Spirit: and THEY THAT WORSHIP HIM MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH.
ALSO
3Jo 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that MY CHILDREN WALK IN TRUTH.

The Bible teaches that there are to be two types of Christians when the Lord returns for the harvest of his end time saints or as it says here wheat class. One will have his spirit and seal of approval the other will not have his spirit which implies these Christian never really knew the father and son in spirit and truth. Here is a few verses which define the have and have nots in this holy spirit picture.

HAVE

Mt 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Jesus then goes on to explain in the same chapter the time frame of the harvest is at the end of the Gospel Age and the good seed are those who belong to Jesus and have his seal of approval. By all accounts the wheat class should have the holy spirit which is the Lords seal of approval, I would think.

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; THE GOOD SEED ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM; BUT THE TARES ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE WICKED ONE;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE WORLD; and the reapers are the angels.

Jesus explains in other verse the difference between the spiritual begotten that have the anointing of the holy spirit compared to those who obviously do not.

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, IF SO BE THAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. NOW IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS.
WITH
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
AND
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

HAVE NOTS

Isa 48:1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, WHICH SWEAR BY THE NAME OF THE LORD, AND MAKE MENTION OF THE GOD OF ISRAEL, BUT NOT IN TRUTH, NOR IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

This last verse sums up the fact that wise Christians must know the father and son in truth if they hope to have the holy spirit abide in them. The foolish or tare class ultimately become a separated begotten class Christian lacking truth and the holy spirit! These babe type spiritual seed class Christians were or are held captive by untruths and false God perceptions and false God worship practices instilled by the anti-Christ spirit and false Christian systems of error under its control.

1 Jo 2: 20 ¶ But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Just a thought or two as the topic of the holy spirit in todays Christian world is of great importance to me. This true anointing is the ultimate things all devote Christians should seek and ask for! Truth is essential for the anointing and sealing process to take place for all elect Christians of faith, that is certain!

Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: HOW MUCH MORE SHALL YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?
AND
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that YE HEARD THE WORD OF TRUTH, THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
AND
Eph 4:30 And GRIEVE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.
AND LAST
Ps 51:11 CAST ME NOT AWAY FROM THY PRESENCE; AND TAKE NOT THY HOLY SPIRIT FROM ME.

Yes the holy spirit can abide in you but it can also be removed as the last verse states!

Thank You for your time! Mike

THE HOLY SPIRIT T IN YOU

Here is a fine quote from a brother in Christ I found very profound the other day!

THE HOLY SPIRIT ALONE GIVES THE REVELATION (THE SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING) OF THE WORD OF GOD

QUOTE: Before I share with you my understanding of the end generation, I need to explain something that few understand in the body of Christ, even among the Charismatics who emphasize “the spirituals” – the gifts of the Spirit. Much of what is preached and taught in today’s Churches is nothing more than the letter of the Word and not the Spirit. THE HOLY SPIRIT ALONE GIVES THE REVELATION (THE SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING) OF THE WORD OF GOD.

Scholarship is not Holy Spirit revelation. Men of great intellect and scholarschip write and teach on many subjects about the Bible, but that does not mean it is the revelation of the Word.

Commentaries abound on what men believe the Bible says, yet when compared to the literal grammatical interpretation fail the test of proper hermeneutics (interpretation). Moreover, hermeneutics that does not depend upon the Holy Spirit for revelation is nothing but man’s opinion. The Word of God was given to men by God to write it down in “books”. That is called “inspiration.” NOTICE THAT IT CAME FROM GOD TO MAN, NOT FROM MAN TO MAN. This is always the order of interpretation. Peter said the Word of God is not the private interpretation of man, meaning that THE WORD OF GOD DID NOT ORIGINATE FROM MAN NO MATTER HOW GREAT AN INTELLECT HE MAY BE (II Peter 1:20-21).

Second, it is not enough to believe in the inspiration of the Scriptures apart from Holy Spirit revelation. UNLESS THE HOLY SPIRIT IMPARTS THE REVELATION OR UNDERSTANDING, IT IS NOTHING BUT A DEAD LETTER. This is the meaning of Paul’s comments in I Corinthians 2:10-16, and in another place, Paul sarcastically asked the Corinthians if the Word of God originated from them (I Corinthians 14:36).

Holy Spirit revelation is a lost doctrine in the body of Christ today and is replaced largely by intellectual scholarship. Sadly, the saints do not know the difference. Likewise, “emotional” preaching and teaching (The make me feel good motivation teaching) has supplanted revelation and many saints are following these highly paid speakers. Truth is not founded upon either an intellectual or emotional presentation of the Word of God that often alters it to make it more acceptable to the hearers, but upon God’s original intent, which is to make us more holy and righteous in our character and conduct. The saints develop a holy walk by conviction and repentance of sin sometimes accompanied by chastening, even severe chastening. The milk toast make me feel good message coming from pulpits and seminairs today do not challenge the saints to live holy and godly lives in a godless world.

In addition, not understanding Holy Spirit revelation, many saints do not live by “rhema faith.” What do I mean by rhema faith? The Greek word “rhema,” which is the word used in Romans 10:17 and Ephesians 6:17 for the “Word of God” means “personalized revelation,” that is, what God is saying through His Word today from the written Word to our reborn spirits. Without rhema there is no real faith! Most Christians live by logos faith. Logos is the written Word of God – the letter of the Word. UNTIL THE HOLY SPIRIT BREATHES UPON THE WRITTEN WORD AND IMPARTS THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO OUR SPIRITS, WE ARE LIVING BY THE LETTER OF THE WORD AND NOT BY REVELATION FAITH.

How does rhema work and this is something that most do not understand including so-called Bible scholars? The Lord may speak from an Old or New Testament Scripture, which the original meaning and purpose was for a different time and to a different people [DIRECT REVELATION] YET GIVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE PRESENT TIME.

Mike: I thought this was a spiritually wise explanation!
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